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The Falling Tower
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After spending my entire life in the high control group known as Jehovah’s Witnesses, I finally summoned the courage to investigate my beliefs and the organization of which I was a member. Upon doing so, I discovered a massive string of hypocrisy, lies, and deception that continues to this day. As a former elder and pioneer, I consider it part of my penance and responsibility to help at least awaken one other person or give them the courage to live their life free of the chains of this organization. My goal is to provide the information necessary to show the deception used by this organization, point out its hypocrisy, and give any assistance possible to help others come to terms with waking up from the indoctrination and dealing with those who are still in it.
A Conversation with Daniel Graves (Former Elder, Bethelite, Pioneer)
Catching up with Daniel Graves and getting a bit more backstory into his time as an elder, bethelite, and pioneer. Always nice to hear another success story after exiting a high control group!
Check out the following links:
The Liberati: www.theliberati.org
Daniel's TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@danieltoddgraves
0:00 Intro
1:33 Background info
3:34 Being an elder
5:36 Life in Bethel
10:40 Working in the HID
18:33 CSA documents
21:26 CSA case at Bethel
25:52 Car accident at Bethel
30:20 Waking up
35:30 Meeting ExJWs
41:40 Rebuilding your social network
46:28 Results from telling your story
53:50 Forming The Liberati & TikTok
1:00:48 Life now
1:03:45 Message to people waking up
1:06:54 Message to friends & family
Check out the following links:
The Liberati: www.theliberati.org
Daniel's TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@danieltoddgraves
0:00 Intro
1:33 Background info
3:34 Being an elder
5:36 Life in Bethel
10:40 Working in the HID
18:33 CSA documents
21:26 CSA case at Bethel
25:52 Car accident at Bethel
30:20 Waking up
35:30 Meeting ExJWs
41:40 Rebuilding your social network
46:28 Results from telling your story
53:50 Forming The Liberati & TikTok
1:00:48 Life now
1:03:45 Message to people waking up
1:06:54 Message to friends & family
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PSA / Warning to ALL ELDERS in Jehovah's Witnesses
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Being an elder comes with major risks that you may be unaware of. Risks to you and risks to others. ALL ELDERS please watch this before agreeing to continue in this assignment. linktr.ee/thefallingtower Why I Left Jehovah's Witnesses: ua-cam.com/video/r7tNNo8EzfQ/v-deo.html Link to information for Elders on trial in Illinois: www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-post-mandatory-reporting...
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How to Get Over Doubts & Fears About Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses
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Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses can cause an extreme fear of what will happen if Armageddon comes and you aren't an active member of the group. Here are some tips to help you get over the fear of this non-existent fate. linktr.ee/thefallingtower Support links: jw.support/ www.recoveringfromreligion.org/ www.seculartherapy.org/ openpathlifecoach.com www.drryanlee.com www.tbylr.com (Take Back Your Li...
How to Resign as an Elder or MS in Jehovah's Witnesses
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It isn't easy to accomplish a successful fade in the religion known as Jehovah's Witnesses. It is even more difficult if you are serving as an elder or ministerial servant. Here are the best tips that most of us ex elders recommend to try to accomplish this. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
How to Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses Series - "God will read hearts at Armageddon"
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For obvious reasons, Jehovah's Witnesses can be a bit hesitant to tell you that you shouldn't expect to be saved at Armageddon unless you become one of them. Surprisingly enough, even some JWs have deceived themselves into thinking that this isn't their true doctrine. Here are some tips to help get them to admit the actual teaching. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someo...
How to Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses Series - "Why don't you just keep quiet and move on?"
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Jehovah's Witnesses are appalled at the idea that someone would leave the religion and then have the courage to speak out about it's abuses and culture. They would prefer that all of us stay silent and not disturb the aura they believe surrounds the religion. This may help provide an answer to that question. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
How to Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses Series - "We aren't a cult!"
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It can be quite a punch in the gut to realize you may be in a cult. This addresses how you can point out the problems with cults and the practices of Jehovah's Witnesses rather than trying to scare them with the "C" word. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php ua-cam.com/video/fLGGlHggSJs/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/kB-dJaCXAxA/v-deo.html
How to Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses Series - "There is child abuse in every religion"
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Once Jehovah's Witnesses become aware of the fact that child abuse exists in their religion, they will them jump to the excuse that it doesn't matter because other religions have problems with it too. Here are some suggestions on how to respond. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
How to Respond to JW's Series - "Even if it isn't true, it's still the best life ever!"
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Jehovah's Witnesses will claim that even if the religion is false, it doesn't matter because it still gives them the "best life ever". There are major problems with this argument. Here are some points to bring out that debunk this. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
How to Respond to Jehovah's Witnesses Series - Introduction
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You will get many excuses from Jehovah's Witnesses when you point out problems with their doctrine, policies, and leadership. This series can help outline what to say in response. linktr.ee/thefallingtower jwfacts.com/watchtower/helping-someone-leave.php
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Why I Left Jehovah's Witnesses - Former Elder / Pioneer
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Why I Left Jehovah's Witnesses - Former Elder / Pioneer
Thank you so much for making this video. I was born into JW and it never set well with me. I was never baptized as one, which gave me a loophole in communication with my only sister and my parents, but it was an extremely strained relationship after I left. It was a very difficult childhood and existence without family, and knowing the depths of what they were still involved in, but I kept my mouth shut. I am thankful for people like you who speak up. God bless you in your spiritual journey.
You couldn't add a TDLR?
Why did you share this?
Remember that every single individual that has claimed to be an 'Elder' has been neck deep and fully supporting footsoldier in the Cult that had wasted and completely destroyed countless lives, while working their way up ambitiously like an obedient little robot to receive that title and selling themselves lock stock and barrel and abandoned all sense and logic to the cult, was involved in dragging people to judicial committees, subjecting them to horrific and very personal intimate interrogations, disfellowshiping people and cruelly shunning people? Is that the kind of experience you are now praising him for here?
My friend is a witness and has been indoctrinated since he was a child by his mother who was seduced by this organization that is decrepid.
Sure, none of us is perfect, but that has all too often been used by the Watchtower Society's Governing Body as an excuse to justify their flip-flopping on their doctrines. By doing that, the Watchtower Society has already shown itself to be untrustworthy in teaching its congregations "new light". That in itself should be a red flag to warn Jehovah's Witnesses that they are in a false religion, and that they should "get out from under Babylon" as the Holy Bible has put it. Thank you for exposing the lies, hypocrisy, and cowardly excuses of the Watchtower Society.
My parents became JW in 1958. A very strict rule was the watchtower and awake magazine was the only truth. Bethel located in New York printed the only appropriate literature! A cult brain wash starting from childhood. Sexual abuse by elders and select members of the chosen 144,000 ruling body. Breaking from them was the best decision of my life. Anyone breaking free can breathe. Young girls and women suffer the most it is definitely a male entitlement faith! Women are expected to take abuse as an act of faith. Escaping is freeing! The world was supposed to end in 1974. Education beyond basic was not encouraged which is intentional as shared by this video! Thank you for sharing.
I was a witness for 23 years i came out of the faith because i am gay. had some good years as a witness! But i am who i am and all i say is do your research with all religions! It is not just the witnesses that are misleading people. There is life after religion 🥰
Second generation jw, I was in until I was 30. After learning about the lies of 607bce, child abuse, donation mishandling, child labor through rbc/ldc, my mother, wife and I all woke up and left at the same time. I hope many more learn the truth of this organization and take back whats left of their lives
We can't see the air either yet without it we'd die
I think all persons who adhere to a particular religious culture ( cult ) ought to prefix their statement with , " i was born into a family who were believers in J W ism , but not born as a J W or anything else for that matter but merely as a Human Being !
I know I cannot tell people that only the remnants of 144,000 who are still on earth can partake bread and wine at Christ Memorial.
Why is it bad to celebrate one's birthday?
God bless you 💓 🙏
Thank you for sharing your journey in a respectful and thoughtful manner. For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest, nor is anything secret that will not be known and come to light. - Luke 8:17
Bravo! I honestly believe that one should be free to look into things in any circumstance. Should one not be able to- this alone is a red flag. That simple! Thumbs up to you sir for sharing and being open & helpful. Respect!
JW's hijacking the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. Really wicked cult!!!
Maybe I’ve been away too long but I don’t recall seeing a disfellowshipped person sing a Kingdom song. Am I wrong?
I recently learned that this is a false religion. I wasted the young years of my life. I could get an education, get married, have a child, pursue my dream of dancing. I am so sorry for my lost 21 years in this religion. 😩😩😭😫 How can I catch up? I need help.😢
I see your pioneer book in the background
Hi how are you? I'm so confused and lots all my life since 16 years old all I knew is Jehovah witnesses. I'm so worried a d stressed because I wanna service god but don't know where to go what church to attend because my worry is the cross and trinity I don't believe I'm this I was taught that how can I wear a cross if jesus was crucified on the cross il so lots and confused I also don't believe jesus os god but from my research I don't know anymore if jeahvoh folk correct
Hey buddy it’s ok, you wanna talk about it?
I've been praying to god to answer my questions about what is and what is not a false religion..... everyone says their religion is true
@@nicolemendez8006 buddy praying to god isn’t gonna help cuz he’s not real, you’re just gonna fall into another trap, . All religions say similar things, promise similar things, hate similar things, they just have different groups at the top
@@nicolemendez8006 buddy there are no true religions, there’s not a single religion that can prove their claims in any legitimate way, they’re all false, there’s not a god, at the very least not one the aligns with religions
I believe there is a god and I've witnessed his holy spirit and god gave me a message that the true religion is Christianity....but the bible does teach of false witnesses and we should bewear i know god is real but thank you 😊
Is the roumers about gay orgies at Bethel true? I heard rumors about this like 10+ years ago.
Congratulations to you, really. One must have a huge sense of ethics to give up a high position of power, in order to be in peace with himself. You've already achieved a lot and be proud of it, as a human being. Religion is what chains people from true happiness and to respect the other human beings. I'm an atheist and I believe that I must be a virtuous man not to receive a "reward" from some invented god but because of my ethics and wellbeing of the community I live in. I've grown up in a highly catholic environment and I've realised in my teenage years, and the years to come, how toxic it was. All the members of the church think they are better than the others and that they follow what Christ preached but in reality many of them are simply racists, homophobic and do charity to "show off". Totally far from the teachings of Christ. Once again, I'm an atheist but I'm way more christian than many of these people I know and it's sad to think about it. My family thinks I'm a little bit crazy because of my non-believing. That's the reason I think one of religions' strenghts is about setting specific rules you must follow to be part of that community. Setting specific social rules. If you don't follow them, you are out, an outcast, the black sheep. It doesn't matter if you are a good person.
So now you left ,so you wanna make a few dollars from posting your story on UA-cam ..but I cant tell you my friend nobody's gonna be there after all your money is spent ,come back all the brothers and sisters will welcome you back ! No bodys gonna help you when you down and hurt.. you'll be lonely .I know that you that know Jehovah is the one that will receive you if you return.
My mom was disfellowshiped and the elders told my grandmother that she couldn’t associate with her own daughter nor could she have my mother’s pictures up in her house. My mom wanted to have a relationship with her mother my grandmother so she had Bible studies to come back or as they call it reinstated. That lawyer was not being truthful.
I am so glad that I left that religion. My experience with that religion was traumatic and cruel.
Thank you for having the courage to speak out
I definitely think a former brother and sister would make a great couple most of us were there because we were searching for the truth, a friend introduced me to a bible study on 2015, the topic on blood kept me from being baptised, got baptised in 2021 in the UK 🇬🇧 had a separation from my husband and an elder told me the bible doesn’t allow divorce without listening to me, I was so annoyed I stepped out, I still had doubts about going back, but I went to the convention, I was always scared to bring up my children under a cult. This video confirms my hearts fears ❤ i wish you all sisters and brothers the best
I was raised JW in the 1960s. They said the world was going to end in the 1970s. I was so scared. Anyway, when I fell in love with The Beatles, they said I was idol worshiping. After that, I decided I liked the Beatles more than Jehovah.
This was almost exactly MY experience. I could relate 100%. It was def the ARC where I saw exactly what you saw, a member of the GB lying, flat out lying! And on such a critical question. I absolutely lost myself in tears and then I was just pissed. Now almost 10 yrs later the pain is there, the trauma is there, but no way in bell I'm going back. "Raised" in it, serving as reg pioneer for 17 yrs and I just got a wall send wasn't able to look these students that i loved in the eyes and ask them to accept the things I could no longer accept. Then to read crisis of conscience I could see plainly I was following a very "politically acting" organization- def NOT an organization lead by God. $$$$$ leads them just like any other org. I wish I could shed the angst I feel for being duped for so long - and also misleading my children their entire lives and for which they hold me responsible. It is what it is - but I will not ever regret my decision. The rest is on them - you shouldn't have to lose 50+yrs of dear friends simply because you choose to think differently.
As a outsider, I never knew JW was called an organisation, thouth it was a church
"He would not be dealt with Judicially unless there is persistent SPIRITUAL association or he persists in openly criticizing the Disfellowshipping decision." Bro you just said the Lawyer was lying when he said you can continue associating unless it was spiritually. The elders handbook clearly stated this in your provided screenshot. Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The only thing you need to discard jehovah's witnesses is THE HOLY BIBLE, wherein it is written in THE SECOND BOOK OF MOSES EXODUS Chapter 3 that Abraham >did not know THE NAME OF GOD< yet in THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES GENESIS it is written that Abraham >did know the name jehovah< as he named a well "jehovah jireh" therefore- THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES THE NAME OF GOD cannot be "Jehovah".
I removed myself and an as an elders 4 months ago after 1 week of PIMO…. Haven’t been to meetings ,only once in that time do only due to my partners still clinging…. I’m so happy now
I had associated with members of the JW while growing up. One particular issue that hit me hard was when they set a deadline for the ebs of the world. We were told the world was going to end in 1975 and when this did not happen, I knew the organisation was not getting anything right
I was an pioneer and ministerial servant
You are a brave man 👨 leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. Many other people have made up their minds to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses organization over the recent years. Good luck to you 😊❤.
Hi love your videos I’ve just left myself
A topic idea for future videos - if a JW leaves the organisation & is shunned by their family & friends, this places the ex-JW at risk, especially younger ex-JWs. Because if everyone they know shuns them, who will make a police report if they go missing?
The more I distance myself from this organisation, the more truth about them keep surfacing, so watch me keep running away from this cult😂😂😂😂😂😂
Be grateful your youth wasn't gone when you found out i was in my 60s
Sad You all blame mankind for Leaving, as witnesses we have faith in the Bible, Not imperfect men !
Where are you now? Did you find a better organization that teach the real TRUTH. YOU JUST FALLEN ON RHE TRAP. Didn't you?
There is no religious truth organization, you’re pathetic and delusional
So, what is the TRUTH and WHERE can you find it?
It’s not Jehovah’s lose, it’s your own. Where are you going after leaving the only true God in the universe? Of course, nowhere else.
Jehovas witnesses are so up their own ass that they think their comparatively shitty little cult has the answers to the universe, what a joke
Thanks for sharing
I’m actually a PIMO Mormon and listening to your experience, the stages you went through, the culmination of everything with the elders, the stories told about you in your congregation…. The Mormons are dealing with some very similar themes, though I’m so grateful that they don’t have a shunning doctrine. Some families and people will still do it though and it is heartbreaking.
I had a friend who passed away that was brought up in the Kingdom hall she was in a car accident. She didn't believe in blood transfusion either.She didn't make it through surgery. I need to make a video my story book by itself....
James White has an episode on the dividing line showing how you can use the grey new world translation bible to prove Jesus is God. You don't need to use "apostate" literature to show your loved ones the truth
I think you give them too much credit that the rumors couldn't start with the elders. Elders are in a position where the sin of pride can take hold and they need a "reason" for the rest of their flock not to follow you. Thus, time to lie for them. ⏰